User:Blue Sphere/Planning

Skeleton of existing Unit archetypes

Vocal archetypes

• [$$] votica: P-SSR4 Kiriko + P-SSR4 Sakuya + more or less generic lim supports
• [$$$] vostray: P-SSR4 Asahi + P-SSR3 Mei + specific straylight lim supports
• [$$$] vokura: P-SSR5 Chiyoko + P-SSR5 Kaho + Glory S-SSR5 Juri (too recent)
• [$$$$] vochill: P-SSR2 Toru + P-SSR2 Madoka + Rookie S-SSR1 Hinana + Party S-SSR1 Koito

Dance archetypes

• [$$$] ≠ dantica: P-SSR3 Yuika + Sentou S-SSR5 Kiriko + S-SSR5 Natsuha
• [$$$] dastray: P-SSR2 Fuyuko + Sentou S-SSR5 Kiriko + S-SSR5 Natsuha + S-SSR4 Fuyuko

Visual archetypes

• [$] vistro: P-SSR4 Tenka + generic lim supports
• [$$] vistray: P-SSR2 Asahi + uchi kuru S-SSR2 Mei

Illumination STARS

• [$$$] P-SSR6 Mano + P-SSR6 Hiori + rooftop S-SSR10 Mano

Important limited banners to know about

• Selected list of 2020 and 2019 limited banners which have not been rerun yet
• Crowd-sourced from the Shiny Colors Discord with special thanks to Rezarhb and Chou

2020 Banners

2020 Vocal

• (2020/1/1-1/10) [Double]
  • P-SSR4 Kiriko and S-SSR2 Fuyuko for generic Vo and Vostray
• (2020/4/30-5/13) [Double]
  • P-SSR4 Sakuya and Footbath S-SSR5 Kogane for generic Vo and Votica
• (2020/6/30-7/10) [Double]
  • P-SSR2 Toru and S-SSR1 Hinana for Vochill
• (2020/9/30-10/12)
  • P-SSR3 Mei for Vostray, S-SSR1 Koito for Vochill
• (2020/10/21-10/31)
  • P-SSR2 Madoka for Vochill and Sentou S-SSR5 Kiriko for generic Da
• (2020/11/30-12/11) [Meta-defining]
  • Glory S-SSR5 Juri for every setup

2020 Da

• (2020/5/31-6/10)
  • Bride P-SSR5 Meguru for IS, Railroad S-SSR3 Asahi for Dastray
• (2020/7/21-7/31) [Double]
  • P-SSR2 Fuyuko and Fireworks S-SSR5 Natsuha for Dastray + generic Da
• (2020/10/21-10/31) [Meta-defining]
  • P-SSR2 Madoka for Vochill, Onsen S-SSR5 Kiriko for generic Da

2020 Vi

• (2020/2/29-3/10) [Double]
  • P-SSR4 Amana and Avalon S-SSR5 Tenka for Vistromeria
• (2020/4/01-4/10) [Double]
  • P-SSR2 Asahi and S-SSR2 Mei for ViStray + generic Vi
• (2020/4/20-4/30) [Meta-defining]
  • P-SSR4 Tenka for Vistromeria, Fishing S-SSR6 Mamimi for generic QoL
• (2020/10/31-11/10)
  • P-SSR5 Chiyuki for Vistromeria, Aquarium S-SSR6 Hiori for IS

2020 IS

• (2020/5/31-6/10)
  • P-SSR5 Meguru for IS, Railroad S-SSR3 Asahi for Dastray
• (2020/10/31-11/10)
  • P-SSR5 Chiyuki for Vistromeria, Aquarium S-SSR6 Hiori for IS

2019 Banners

2019 Vo

• none

2019 Da

• none

2019 Vi

• (2019/11/30-12/13)
  • Snow S-SSR4 Chiyuki for Unit mastery/Perfect mastery for Dastro (and off-element in Vistro)

2019 IS

• (2019/4/29-5/13)
  • S-SSR3 Meguru for generic QoL and good for IS
• (2019/10/31-11/10)
  • Onsen S-SSR4 Hiori for IS

Personal situation

This page details the possible team comps that are the most attainable given the limited cards I currently own.

Limited cards I own

Produce Idols

• 1 P-SSR Selection ticket
• P-SSR4 Kiriko: Vo-centric, AoE stall, AoE attacker, Center, core Votica
• P-SSR4 Rinze: Vo-centric, multicolor buffer, enmity enabler (attention), memory gauge, often Leader, core Vokago, sub
• P-SSR3 Yuika: Da-centric, enmity attacker, short fights, Dance, core NE
• P-SSR5 Rinze: Vi-centric, multicolor buffer, enmity enabler (def down), memory gauge, often Leader, sub

Support Idols

• S-SSR5 Kogane: Vo-centric, 100% enmity gold passive, core Votica
• S-SSR4 Mamimi: Da-centric, 100% enmity gold passive, core in most Da archetypes
• S-SSR3 Yuika: Da-centric, melancholy-based passive, niche
• S-SSR4 Chiyuki: Da-centric, strong unit mastery, core in Dalstro
• S-SSR4 Yuika: Vi-centric, 100% enmity gold passive
• S-SSR9 Mano: ViVo-centric, strong unit masteries

Votica

For more details refer to Shiratama Anko's post

Produce Idols

L'Antica

• P-SR3 Mamimi: Leader, AoE stall
• P-SSR1 Mamimi: Leader, melancholy grief
• P-SSR4 Sakuya: Vocal, ST stall & interest-ignore
• P-SSR4 Kiriko: Center, AoE stall & interest-ignore
• P-SR2 Yuika: Dance, self-cut
• P-SSR2 Yuika: Dance, ST enmity
• P-SSR4 Yuika: Dance, gauge, Vo buff, self-cut (better P-SR2)
• P-SR1 Kogane: Visual, heal and sustain
• P-SSR4 Kogane: Visual, strong Vo buff on link

Support Idols

L'Antica

• S-SSR5 Kogane: enmity Vo buff, SP generation
• S-SSR6 Mamimi: tricolor buffs, SP generation
• S-SR3 Sakuya: off-element AoE stall appeal
• S-SSR5 Kiriko: SP generation

Sub

• S-SSR5 Juri: enmity Vo buff, enmity-enabling attention, (interest up appeal)
• S-SSR3 Kaho: enmity Vo buff, enmity-enabling attention (both weaker than Glory)
• S-SSR2 Fuyuko: active Vo buff-enabled Vo buff

Dantica

Produce Idols

Icon	Idol	Notes
	Kogane Tsukioka	unlikely to get a pure Da limited card
	P-SSR5 Kogane	best option among limited Ps at 4★
	P-SSR2 Kogane	decent at 0☆
	Mamimi Tanaka	will not get a limited P card this series, see P-SSR6 Mamimi
	P-SSR6 Mamimi	decent at 0☆ for stalling/melancholy
	P-SSR5 Mamimi	best option at 4★ for self-cut
	Sakuya Shirase	very likely to get a limited Da P card this series, see P-SSR2 Sakuya (Vi) and P-SSR4 Sakuya (Vo)
	P-SSR4 Sakuya	best option even off-color for stalling
	P-SSR5 Sakuya	decent at 0☆ for damage
	P-SSR3 Sakuya	ok at 4★ for melancholy
	P-IdolRoad SSR1 Sakuya	decent for stats
	Yuika Mitsumine	will not get a limited P card this series, see P-SSR6 Yuika
	P-SSR3 Yuika	best option at 4★ for AoE damage, good Memory Appeal
		other options not comparable in terms of firepower
	Kiriko Yukoku	will not get another Da limited card this series, most probably Vi or multicolor
	P-SSR5 Kiriko	best option at 4★ for Memory Appeal
		other options not comparable in terms of firepower

Produce Deck

Unreleased Da limited S cards

• : conflict with S-SSR5 Kiriko and S-SSR4 Fuyuko
  • Kaho
    • uncertain whether she could be released in 2021, P-SSR4 Kaho exists
  • Madoka
    • unlikely to be released in the near future, probably too specialized to be used for Dantica
• : conflict with S-SSR6 Yuika and S-SSR3 Asahi
  • Meguru
    • could be released soon to put the final touch on Da IS comps
  • Rinze
    • could be released this year to alternate from limited Vokura S cards, there is no limited Rinze for Da yet
  • Hinana
    • same situation as Madoka
  • Nichika
    • likely to be released after a limited P Mikoto Aketa (maybe at the end of 2021) see User:Blue Sphere/DaSHHis
• : conflict with S-SSR4 Mamimi
  • Hiori
    • unlikely to be released in the near future since S-SSR6 Hiori exists and has a bicolor Da typing
  • Tenka
    • could be released later this year to complete Dalstroemeria
  • Toru
    • same situation as Madoka
  • Mikoto
    • likely to be released after a Da Nichika S card (maybe in Q1 2022)
• : conflict with S-SSR5 Natsuha
  • Kogane
    • very likely to get a S card to complete the Dantica limited S set (maybe at the end of 2021)
  • Mei
    • final DaStray support unlikely to be released this year
  • Koito
    • same situation as Madoka

ViStray

Produce Idols

Straylight

• P-SSR2 Asahi: current center, AoE
• P-SSR? Fuyuko (limited) (should be the Vi counterpart of the 2nd series of limited Produce Straylight idols)
• P-SSR? Mei (limited) (should be the Vi counterpart of the 3rd limited series)

Extra

• P-SSR5 Rinze: gauge charger, buffer
• P-SSR4 Mamimi: enmity attacker, AoE
• P-SSR? Kaho (limited): maybe interest up?
• P-SSR? Chiyoko (limited): maybe interest up?

Produce Deck Options

Support	Notes
S-SSR1 Fuyuko (permanent)
S-SSR2 Madoka (permanent)
S-SSR3 Kiriko (limited)
S-SSR? Fuyuko (limited) ♥	S-SSR? Fuyuko is likely to be the Visual part of the 3rd generation of limited Straylight supports with S-SSR? Asahi (Vocal) and S-SSR? Mei (Dance)
S-SSR4 Yuika (limited) ♥
S-SSR7 Meguru (event)
S-SSR? Asahi (limited) ♥	S-SSR? Asahi is likely to be a Visual version of the 2nd generation limited Straylight supports: S-SSR4 Fuyuko and S-SSR5 Mei
S-SSR2 Mamimi (permanent)
S-SSR5 Amana (permanent)
S-SSR5 Sakuya (limited)
S-SSR? Amana (limited)	S-SSR? Amana (Visual) could be more useful than S-SSR5 Tenka for ViStray
S-SSR? Mamimi (limited) ♥	S-SSR? Mamimi is the only remaining piece of the L'Antica limited Visual support series and likely to provide a strong enmity Visual passive skill
S-SSR2 Koito (permanent)
S-SSR2 Mei (limited) ♥
S-SSR6 Kogane (limited)

Note: support idols marked with a ♥ icon are probably going to be preferred.

Investment Plan

1. spark on the banner rerun:
   1. P-SSR2 Asahi (at least 1 copy)
   2. S-SSR2 Mei (at least 1 copy)
2. (optional) spark on the banner rerun:
   1. P-SSR5 Rinze (more copies welcome)
   2. S-SSR5 Sakuya (at least 1 copy)
3. (optional) ticket P-SSR4 Mamimi (allows skipping her rerun banner)
4. spark on a future S-SSR? Asahi banner
5. spark on a future P-SSR? Fuyuko banner
6. spark on a future P-SSR? Mei banner
7. spark on a future S-SSR? Fuyuko banner

FES Unit example

From Shiina's note post 【シャニマス】Viストレイでグレフェス頑張るその１(グレ7 3/12~22) of March 21st 2021.

Leader	Vocal	Center	Dance	Visual
P-SSR3 Kaho	P-SSR1 Fuyuko	P-SSR2 Asahi	P-SR1 Mei	P-SSR5 Rinze
S-SSR6 Kogane S-SSR4 Yuika S-SSR5 Sakuya S-SSR2 Mei S-SSR1 Fuyuko	S-SSR2 Mamimi S-SSR5 Sakuya S-SSR2 Mei S-SSR4 Yuika S-SSR1 Kaho	S-SSR2 Mamimi S-SSR5 Sakuya S-SSR6 Kogane S-SSR4 Yuika S-SSR1 Fuyuko	S-SSR5 Sakuya S-SSR1 Fuyuko S-SSR6 Kogane S-SSR4 Yuika S-SSR2 Mamimi	S-SSR1 Fuyuko S-SSR4 Yuika S-SSR6 Kogane S-SSR5 Sakuya S-SSR1 Mamimi

DaStray

Produce Idols

Straylight

Asahi

• every Asahi released so far needs a complete overhaul for this team composition

Fuyuko

• P-SSR2 Fuyuko (limited): Center, link memory appeal user, memory gauge utility
  • memory appeal granting
  • memory appeal link consuming a maximum of and a total of 4x / (e.g. )
    • requires a minimum of + 2x / before memory appeal to reach max potency (6x multiplier)
    • can be used at the earliest on T3 assuming Mei and Asahi carry buffing appeals
    • one appeal granting a tricolor buff suffices to get 2x /
    • P-SSR4 Mei's 0☆ appeal grants
  • utility appeals granting and memory gauge (15% and 25% respectively)
    • panel has aged compared to more recent cards, can be used at 0☆
    • 4★ appeal is not that much more powerful than 0☆
    • no crucial passives to purchase either

Mei

• P-SSR4 Mei (permanent)
  • 0☆ appeal grants
  • good total amount of Dance Limit UP at 0☆ (100) 2☆ (150) and 3☆ (250) purchasable with no unwanted passive
  • decent passives that are mostly optional
• P-IdolRoad SSR1 Mei (Idol Road)
  • good amount of Dance Limit UP at 3☆ (115) purchasable with 1 unwanted passive (which can trigger on T4+)

Subs

• P-SSR5 Kiriko (limited): Da enmity, auto-revive, strong buffs
• P-SSR5 Chiyoko (limited): interest 50% down [3T] 100% up [5T]
• P-SSR5 Kaho (limited): AoE interest 20% down [2T] 25% up [5T]
• P-SSR4 Sakuya (limited): interest 50% down [3T], memory gauge up
• P-SSR4 Kiriko (limited): AoE interest 20% down [3T]
• P-SSR4 Rinze (limited) and P-SSR5 Rinze (limited): memory gauge up, multicolor buffs

Speculation

• Da P-SSR? Asahi (limited): probably AoE attacker
• Da P-SSR? Mei (limited): probably buffer/enabler
• Da P-SSR? Rinze (limited): probably gauge charger and multicolor buffs cf. P-SSR4 Rinze and P-SSR5 Rinze

Produce Deck

Buffing Support Appeals

Good options

• S-SSR4 Fuyuko:
• S-SSR10 Mano:
• S-SSR2 Asahi:
  • can only be learned by Mei
• S-SSR3 Asahi:
  • can only be learned by Mei
• S-SR1 Asahi:
  • can only be learned by Mei
  • requires several unwanted passive skills

Lesser options

• S-SSR1 Fuyuko:
  • Vi 3x appeal
• S-SSR6 Meguru:
  • Vo 3x appeal
• S-SR4 Mano: [2T]
  • conflicts with S-SSR10 Mano
• S-SR6 Hiori: [2T]
  • Vo 2.3x appeal

Fallback options

• S-SSR1 Meguru:
• S-SSR1 Mei:
  • can only be learned by Asahi
  • Vo 2.5x appeal
  • requires several unwanted passive skills
• S-SSR1 Asahi:
  • can only be learned by Mei
  • requires several unwanted passive skills
• S-SSR5 Mano:
  • Vi 2.5x appeal
  • conflicts with S-SSR10 Mano
• S-SR1 Hiori:
  • Vi 2.5x appeal

Notes

• Buff duration mentioned only when less than 3T

Main Picks

Support	Notes
S-SSR5 Kiriko (limited) ♥	strongest Da buff in the game
S-SSR4 Fuyuko (limited) ♥	conflict with S-SSR5 Kiriko
S-SSR2 Asahi (permanent)
S-SSR3 Asahi (limited)
S-SSR6 Rinze (limited)	conflict with either Asahi cards
S-SSR3 Mamimi (permanent)
S-SSR4 Mamimi (limited)
S-SSR5 Natsuha (limited) ♥	crucial enmity enabler
S-SSR3 Mei (permanent)
S-SSR? Mei (limited)	conflict with S-SSR5 Natsuha S-SSR? Mei is likely to be the Dance part of the 3rd generation of limited Straylight supports with S-SSR? Asahi (Vocal) and S-SSR? Fuyuko (Visual)

• 2 Insight conflicts to resolve make deck building likely to leave out one of two limited Straylight supports

Example Top 100 unit

Fes Unit used by あっしゅ to reach #27 of the G7 Top 100 on June 7 2021.

Leader	Vocal	Center	Dance	Visual
P-SSR5 Rinze	P-SSR4 Sakuya	P-SSR2 Fuyuko	P-IdolRoad SSR1 Mei	P-SSR4 Asahi
S-SSR5 Natsuha S-SSR5 Kiriko S-SSR2 Asahi S-SSR2 Mei S-SSR3 Mamimi	S-SSR5 Natsuha S-SSR5 Kiriko S-SSR4 Fuyuko S-SSR3 Mamimi S-SSR2 Asahi	S-SSR5 Natsuha S-SSR5 Kiriko S-SSR4 Mamimi S-SSR2 Asahi S-SSR1 Yuika	S-SSR5 Natsuha S-SSR5 Kiriko S-SSR4 Fuyuko S-SSR3 Mamimi S-SSR2 Asahi	S-SSR5 Natsuha S-SSR5 Kiriko S-SSR4 Fuyuko S-SSR3 Mamimi S-SR2 Rinze

Build

• P-SSR5 Rinze 1☆
  • appeals: self 0☆ appeal and 4★ appeal from S-SSR3 Mamimi
  • passive skills: self 1☆ skill, 1☆ and 2☆ skills from S-SSR5 Natsuha, 2☆ skill from S-SSR5 Kiriko, and 2☆ skill from S-SSR3 Mamimi
• P-SSR4 Sakuya 0☆
  • appeals: self 0☆ appeal and 4★ appeal from S-SSR3 Mamimi
  • passive skills: 1☆ and 2☆ skills from S-SSR5 Natsuha, 2☆ skill from S-SSR5 Kiriko, 2☆ skill from S-SSR3 Mamimi, and 2☆ skill from S-SSR4 Fuyuko
• P-SSR2 Fuyuko 4★
  • appeals: self 0☆ appeal and self 4★ appeal
  • passive skills: self 1☆ skill, 1☆ and 2☆ skills from S-SSR5 Natsuha, 2☆ skill from S-SSR5 Kiriko
• P-IdolRoad SSR1 Mei 4★
  • appeals: 4★ appeal from S-SSR4 Fuyuko and 4★ appeal from S-SSR3 Mamimi
• P-SSR4 Asahi 0☆
  • appeals: 4★ appeal from S-SSR4 Fuyuko and 4★ appeal from S-SSR3 Mamimi

Strategy

• stall with S-SSR3 Mamimi's 4★ appeal: interest 70% down [1T] and P-SSR4 Sakuya's 0☆ appeal: interest 50% interest down [3T]
• accumulate multicolor buffs with P-SSR5 Rinze's 0☆ appeal: 50% Vo/Da/Vi [4T], S-SSR4 Fuyuko's 4★ appeal: 20% Da [5T] + 10% Da/Vi [10T], and P-SSR2 Fuyuko's 0☆ and 4★ appeals: resp. 5% and 10% Vo/Da [resp. 5T and 10T]
• use full-power memory appeal

Investment Plan

1. spark on the banner rerun
   1. P-SSR2 Fuyuko (at least 1 copy)
   2. S-SSR5 Natsuha (at least 1 copy)
2. wait for a limited S-SSR selection ticket to get S-SSR5 Kiriko
   1. rerun of banner will probably be much later
   2. P-SSR2 Madoka would be hard to use without proper support

Future Releases

Icon Release Date P-SSR8 Fuyuko 13 November 2023 P-SSR8 Asahi 28 February 2023 P-SSR6 Mei 30 June 2022 P-SSR5 Fuyuko 19 March 2022 P-SSR5 Asahi 11 January 2022 P-SSR5 Mei 31 October 2021 P-SSR4 Fuyuko 31 July 2021 P-SSR4 Asahi 31 January 2021 P-SSR3 Mei 30 September 2020 P-SSR2 Fuyuko 21 July 2020 P-SSR2 Asahi 1 April 2020

Icon Release Date P-SSR9 Mei 21 March 2024 P-SSR9 Fuyuko 8 February 2024 P-SSR7 Mei 22 May 2023 P-SSR6 Asahi 20 September 2022 P-SSR4 Mei 11 June 2021 P-SSR3 Fuyuko 23 December 2020 P-SSR3 Asahi 20 November 2020 P-SSR2 Mei 20 February 2020 P-SSR1 Fuyuko 20 November 2019 P-SSR1 Mei 11 October 2019 P-SSR1 Asahi 30 June 2019

Icon Release Date P-SSR9 Mei 21 March 2024 P-SSR9 Fuyuko 8 February 2024 P-SSR8 Fuyuko 13 November 2023 P-SSR8 Mei 15 October 2023 P-SSR7 Mei 22 May 2023 P-SSR7 Fuyuko 13 April 2023 P-SSR8 Asahi 28 February 2023 P-SSR7 Asahi 31 January 2023 P-SSR6 Fuyuko 20 October 2022 P-SSR6 Asahi 20 September 2022 P-SSR6 Mei 30 June 2022 P-SSR5 Fuyuko 19 March 2022 P-SSR5 Asahi 11 January 2022 P-SSR5 Mei 31 October 2021 P-SSR4 Fuyuko 31 July 2021 P-SSR4 Mei 11 June 2021 P-SSR4 Asahi 31 January 2021 P-SSR3 Fuyuko 23 December 2020 P-SSR3 Asahi 20 November 2020 P-SSR3 Mei 30 September 2020 ... further results

DaSHHis

Produce Idols

SHHis

• future P-SSR? Mikoto: speculated to be a Da version of P-SSR2 Nichika with passives favoring Illumination Stars, L'Antica, and Houkago Climax Girls
• P-SSR1 Nichika: Da/Vi, Mikoto appeal buffs, memory gauge passive

Helpers

• Option 1: AoE appeal focus
  • P-SSR6 Mano: tricolor buffs (active and passive), Da buffs, Da-oriented All AoE appeals (or future P-SSR6? Hiori)
  • P-SSR3 Yuika: enmity AoE & attention down ST appeals
  • P-SSR5 Rinze: tricolor buffs (active and passive), memory damage up, memory gauge passive, not a Da idol (or future Da limited P-SSR? Rinze)
• Option 2: NE-SHHis
  • P-SSR3 Yuika
  • P-SSR5 Kiriko: second L'Antica role to buff P-SSR3 Yuika, enmity Da buffs
  • P-SSR5 Rinze
• Option 3: ST Interest
  • P-SSR6 Mano: tricolor buffs
  • P-SSR4 Sakuya: ST Interest Down, memory gauge active, not a Da idol
  • P-SSR5 Chiyoko: ST Interest Down then Up, Attention Up passives, not a Da idol
• Option 4: AoE Interest
  • P-SSR6 Mano
  • P-SSR4 Kiriko: AoE Interest Down, not a Da idol
  • P-SSR5 Kaho: AoE Interest Down then Up, not a Da idol

Produce Deck Options

Support	Notes
S-SSR5 Kiriko (limited) ♥	150% Da Up passive below 35% Mental
S-SSR10 Mano (limited) ♥	100% Da Up passive on VoDaVi Up active
S-SSR6 Yuika (permanent)	Dance Mastery Stamina
S-SSR? Nichika (limited) ♥	something with above 3 Units?
S-SSR4 Mamimi (limited)	100% Da Up passive below 50% Mental
S-SSR? Mikoto (limited)	something with above 3 Units?
S-SSR5 Natsuha (limited) ♥	Attention Up passive to easily lower Mental

P-SSR1 Nichika Support Deck Example

• S-SSR5 Kiriko
• S-SSR6 Yuika
• S-SSR4 Mamimi
• S-SSR? Mikoto
• S-SSR5 Natsuha

Notes:

• no S-SSR10 Mano: P-SSR1 Nichika needs to use both her own appeals
• maybe Vocal/Visual position since her main role is to buff Mikoto
• at least 1 bond with Mikoto

P-SSR? Mikoto Support Deck Example

• S-SSR5 Kiriko
• S-SSR? Nichika
• S-SSR4 Mamimi
• S-SSR5 Natsuha

Notes:

• no S-SSR10 Mano: P-SSR? Mikoto needs to use both her own appeals
• Dance position if she has no AoE appeal?
• at least 1 bond with Nichika